From $1m to $25m in 6 Years | Jeff Flannery Interview
Open on YouTube ↗Jeff Flannery spent 18 years running a successful but unsaleable executive recruiting practice before buying his first Hand and Stone massage/facial franchise location in Peoria, Arizona in early 2019 for $150,000 — a spa days from bankruptcy that he turned around to become the fastest-growing location in the system within its first year. Starting with SBA financing and roughly $60-90k out of pocket, he then embarked on an aggressive roll-up of distressed Hand and Stone resales: two California locations acquired near-free during COVID using PPP loan transfers and seller notes, a profitable Phoenix flagship funded by a $500k equity investor, and further acquisitions across Arizona, California, Virginia, Chicago, and Houston — reaching 19 spas in five states by 2023. After a painful pause driven by a divorce, an uncooperative lender, and operational overextension, he sold the California and Virginia locations, streamlined to 17 high-performing units, and grew system revenue from $1m in 2019 to $25m in 2025. A defining competitive edge is proprietary infrastructure built well beyond what the franchisor provides: a Smartsheet operations platform, a 50-person Philippines-based inbound and outbound call center, a structured manager bench and onboarding program, and a superior membership sales process. Jeff is now targeting continued Hand and Stone acquisitions (primarily in Phoenix and Houston) while planning to launch an undisclosed new wellness concept from scratch as a potential future franchisor.
Deal facts
- purchase price
- First location: $150k (Peoria, AZ); second location: $50k (Glendale, AZ); four Northern California locations acquired ~$0 down (two at $50k each with seller notes, one at $150k, one included PPP transfers); one large profitable Phoenix-area spa financed via $500k equity raise; total portfolio grew to 19 spas in 5 states
- multiple
- 3-4x cash flow (stated as market rate for Hand and Stone resales)
- sde ebitda
- EBITDA ~6.5% of ~$25m revenue in 2025 (~$1.6m); four-wall EBITDA ~$4m before overhead; targeting 10%+ EBITDA in 2026
- revenue
- $25m in 2025 (17 locations after selling California and Virginia); ~$1m in 2019
- financing structure
- First spa: SBA 7(a) loan, ~10% down (~$15k equity), ~$60-90k all-in; subsequent acquisitions: seller notes (0% down to 60-70% seller carry, 2-5 year terms), then conventional bank financing from ~2021 onward; $500k equity investor (still in) for large Phoenix spa; total personal cash invested ~$400-500k
- notes
- Sold California and Virginia locations by end of 2025; currently 17 spas (11 in Phoenix metro, 3 in Chicago, 3 in Houston); $6m debt, $2m cash as of interview; average unit volume ~$1.4-1.5m
Why this business
A business school buddy mentioned Hand and Stone and thought Jeff would be great at it. Jeff evaluated the entire massage/spa franchise landscape from a consulting perspective and concluded Hand and Stone was the best brand. He was also drawn to the membership model's recurring revenue and saw an opportunity to buy a deeply distressed existing location cheaply rather than build from scratch, allowing him to get in the system with data advantages unavailable to new franchisees.
What's working
- Buying deeply distressed franchise locations at steep discounts (first spa at $150k vs $600-700k to build new) and turning them around rapidly — Peoria went from near-bankruptcy to fastest-growing Hand and Stone in the system within the first year
- Rolling up franchise resales within the system through proactive outreach to fellow franchisees and reputation as a reliable closer with financing in place
- Building proprietary infrastructure: Smartsheet-based operations platform, inbound call center in the Philippines (~50 staff) to capture missed calls and execute scripted booking, outbound call center for lead nurturing from digital ads — described as 'moats around our business'
- DISC personality testing and multi-week structured onboarding for managers; building a 'bench' of managers ready to deploy on acquisition; functional excellence directors for front desk, massage therapists, and aestheticians
- Charging enrollment fees (introduced against corporate skepticism) and developing a proprietary membership sales process that outperforms the franchisor playbook
- Incentive trip to Cabo San Lucas for all staff — Jeff defends this against PE cost-cutting instinct as high-ROI for recruitment and performance
- Two-thirds of revenue is recurring membership revenue; unit economics improve significantly past the break-even membership threshold
- Franchise system advantages: instant five-minute deal valuation using BI data, ready-made deal flow within the network, benchmarking against 450+ franchisees, brand and playbook
What's hard
- Worked 100-hour weeks for 4-5 years; described as 'absolutely miserable' professionally during prior 18-year recruiting practice, then extremely intense in the spa business early on
- California operations were a disaster: Governor Newsom moved the goalposts on reopening criteria, locations closed twice, 80-90% of all losses came from four California spas; PAGA lawsuits continued even after exiting the state
- Virginia required a master aesthetician license to do facials, making it nearly impossible to staff; learned state-specific labor law nuances the hard way
- Manager quality is the single biggest swing factor: 'A great manager, the spa blossoms. Bad manager, it tanks.' High turnover on inherited managers and front desk after acquisitions
- Bank lender cross-collateralized all locations then decided to exit franchise lending, leaving Jeff with financing instability while also going through a divorce — came close to violating bank covenants
- Forgot to negotiate away liquidated damages clause with franchisor (royalty clawback on early closure); had to pay when closing a California location
- Membership model deferred liabilities (unredeemed gift cards, prepaid memberships) are inherited on acquisition and spook underwriters; true effective multiple is 7-8x when liabilities are included even though the market transacts at 3-4x cash flow
- 18-year prior 'practice' (recruiting firm) was unsaleable and couldn't be stepped out of — a cautionary tale about owner-dependency and building a job instead of a business
- Getting ahead of operations during rapid 2021-2022 expansion; had to pause acquisitions from fall 2023 to summer 2025 to fix margins and rebuild team
Notable quotes
I knew at a very young age I wanted to be an entrepreneur. When I was 4 years old, I have a twin brother, and we had a restaurant with my parents where we had American cheese melted on saltine crackers for like a nickel or something.
I gave myself golden handcuffs. Usually companies give you golden handcuffs. I gave myself golden handcuffs.
When Cortez landed in Mexico, he burnt his ships so he'd be well motivated. I burnt my ships.
80 to 90% of my losses came from my four spas in California. 80, 90%. And I just got out of California, and I've been sued three times since I've been out of California.
I built an infrastructure that's very expensive because I'm building this business not just for today and the 17 spas we have. I'm building a business for 50 spas or other big brands.
There was no plan B, Will. There was no plan B. And if it didn't work, I would have lost everything. I would have rebuilt from ground zero.
